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The first derivative of the baseline A320, it has a stretched fuselage and entered service in 1994 witharound six years after the original A320.
The aircraft shares a common with all other Airbus A320 family variants, allowing existing A320 family pilots to fly the aircraft without the need for further training.
In December 2010, Airbus announced a new generation of the A320 family, the new engine option.
The similarly lengthened fuselage A321neo variant offers new, more efficient, engines, combined with airframe improvements and the addition of called Sharklets by Airbus.
The aircraft delivers fuel savings of up to 15%.
The A321neo carries up to 236 passengers, with a maximum range of 4,000 nmi 7,400 km; 4,600 mi for the long-range version when carrying no more than 206 passengers.
Final assembly of the aircraft takes place in, or.
As of 31 January 2019, a total of 1,850 Airbus A321 aircraft have been delivered, of which 1,827 are in service.
In addition, another 2,241 airliners are on firm order comprising 81 A321ceo and 2,160 A321neo.
As 777 double slotted flaps January 2019, was the largest operator of the Airbus A321, operating 220 aircraft.
The A321 entered service in January 1994 with The Airbus A321 was the first derivative of the A320, also known as the Stretched A320, A320-500 and A325.
Its launch came on 24 November 1988, around the same time as the A320 entered service, after commitments for 183 aircraft from 10 customers were secured.
An Airbus A321 on 3 in the Airbus plant at The of the Airbus A321 came on 11 March 1993, when theregistration F-WWIA, flew with engines; the second prototype, equipped with CFM56-5B turbofans, flew in May 1993.
Lufthansa and were the first to order the stretched Airbuses, with 20 and 40 aircraft requested, respectively.
The first of Lufthansa's V2500-A5-powered A321s arrived on 27 January 1994, while Alitalia received its first CFM56-5B-powered aircraft on 22 March 1994.
The A321-100 entered service in January 1994 with Lufthansa.
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The A321-200's length exceeds 44.
Wingspan remained unchanged, supplementing various wingtip devices.
Two suppliers provided turbofan engines for the A321: with its and with the engine, both in the thrust range of 133—147 kN 30,000—33,000 lb f.
It is a low-wing with a conventional having a single and.
Changes from the A320 include a fuselage stretch and some modifications to the wing.
The fuselage was lengthened by a 4.
The length increase required the overwing window exits of the A320 to be converted into door exits and repositioned in front of and behind 777 double slotted flaps wings.
To maintain performance, and minor modifications were included, increasing the wing area from 124 m 2 1,330 sq ft to 128 m 2 1,380 sq ft.
The centre fuselage and were reinforced to accommodate the increase in of 9,600 kg 21,200 lbtaking it to 83,000 kg 183,000 lb.
The maximum takeoff weight MTOW of the A321-100 was increased to 83,000 kg 183,000 lb.
The A321-100 entered service with in 1994.
Only about 90 were produced.
This is achieved through higher thrust engines V2533-A5 or CFM56-5B3minor structural strengthening, and an increase in fuel capacity with the installation of one or two optional 2,990 L 790 US gal tanks in the rear underfloor hold.
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Airbus launched the A321LR Long Range on 13 January 2015 with a of 4,000 nmi 7,400 km with 206 seats in two classes.
On 31 January 2018, it completed its first flight.
Airbus announced its certification on 2 October 2018.
On 13 November 2018, received the first A321LR.
The proposed A321XLR with a range extended to 4,500 nmi 8,300 km would be launched in 2019 to enter service in 2021 or 2022 to compete with the.
In November, Airbus indicated that the A321XLR would have an MTOW over 100 t 220,000 lb and 700 nmi 1,300 km more range than the A321LR.
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The Boeing 787 has both leading edge slats and also single-slotted trailing edge flaps. Other Boeing widebodies, like the 767 and 777, had more complicated double section inboard flaps but as with newer Airbuses the single-slotted design is less maintenance intensive and lighter. A close up look at the flaps and leading edge slats deployed on a.


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The A321neo carries up to 236 passengers, click to see more a maximum range of 4,000 nmi 7,400 km; 4,600 mi for the long-range version when carrying no more than 206 passengers.
Final assembly of the aircraft takes place in, or.
As of 31 January 2019, a total of 1,850 Airbus A321 aircraft have been delivered, of which 1,827 are in service.
In addition, another 2,241 airliners are on firm order comprising 81 A321ceo and 2,160 A321neo.
The A321 entered service in January 1994 with The Airbus A321 was the first derivative of the A320, also known as the Stretched A320, A320-500 and A325.
Its launch came on 24 November 1988, around the same time as the A320 entered service, after commitments for 183 aircraft from 10 customers were secured.
An Airbus A321 on 3 in the Airbus plant at The of the Airbus A321 came on 11 March 1993, when theregistration F-WWIA, flew with engines; the second prototype, equipped with CFM56-5B turbofans, flew in May 1993.
Lufthansa and were the first to order the stretched Airbuses, with 20 and 40 aircraft requested, respectively.
The first of Lufthansa's V2500-A5-powered A321s arrived on 27 January 1994, while Alitalia received its first CFM56-5B-powered aircraft on 22 March 1994.
The A321-100 entered service in January 1994 with Lufthansa.
Final assembly for the A321 was carried out in Germany then West Germanya first for any Airbus.
The second production line was located inwhich later produced the smaller and.
The A321 is the largest variant of the A320 family.
The A321-200's length exceeds 44.
Wingspan remained unchanged, supplementing various wingtip devices.
Two suppliers provided turbofan engines for the A321: with its and with the engine, both in the thrust range of 133—147 kN 30,000—33,000 lb f.
It is a low-wing with a conventional having a single and.
Changes from the A320 include a fuselage stretch and some modifications to the wing.
The fuselage was lengthened by a 4.
The length increase required the overwing window exits of the A320 to be converted into door exits and repositioned in front of and behind the wings.
To maintain performance, and minor modifications were included, increasing the wing area from 124 m 2 1,330 sq ft to 128 m 2 1,380 sq ft.
The centre fuselage and were reinforced to accommodate the increase in of 9,600 kg 21,200 lbtaking it to 83,000 kg 183,000 lb.
The maximum takeoff weight MTOW of the A321-100 was increased to 83,000 kg 183,000 lb.
The A321-100 entered service with in 1994.
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These modifications also increased the maximum takeoff weight of the A321-200 to 93,000 kg 205,000 lb.
This variant first flew in December 1996, and entered service with in April 1997.
Its direct competitors include the and the.
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It received its 777 double slotted flaps certification on 15 December 2016.
The first entered service in May 2017 with.
Airbus launched the A321LR Long Range on 13 January 2015 with a of 4,000 nmi 7,400 km with 206 seats in two classes.
On 31 January 2018, it completed its first flight.
Airbus announced its certification on 2 October 2018.
On 13 November 2018, received the first A321LR.
The proposed A321XLR with a range extended to 4,500 nmi 8,300 km would be launched in 2019 to enter service in 2021 or 2022 to compete with the.
In November, Airbus indicated that the A321XLR would have an MTOW over 100 t 220,000 lb and 700 nmi 1,300 km more range than the A321LR.
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3. I did this quick so there are other errors as well. For example the flap has a balsa block nose which does not move it says in location throughtout the animation. You can see it as the third line ( half solid, half slotted ). Otherwise its a nice little animation that showes you how the flaps will work.


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The aircraft shares a common with all other Airbus A320 family variants, allowing existing A320 family pilots to fly the aircraft without the need for further training.
In December 2010, Airbus announced a new generation of the A320 family, the new engine option.
The similarly lengthened fuselage A321neo variant offers new, more efficient, engines, combined with airframe improvements and the addition of called Sharklets by Airbus.
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As of 31 January 2019, a total of 1,850 Airbus A321 aircraft have been delivered, of which 1,827 are in service.
In addition, another 2,241 airliners are on firm order comprising 81 A321ceo and 2,160 A321neo.
As of January 2019, was the largest operator of the Airbus A321, operating 777 double slotted flaps aircraft.
The A321 entered service in January 1994 with The Airbus A321 was the first derivative of the A320, also known as the Stretched A320, A320-500 and A325.
Its launch came on 24 November 1988, around the same time as the A320 entered service, after commitments for 183 aircraft from 10 customers were secured.
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Lufthansa and were the first to order the stretched Airbuses, with 20 and 40 aircraft requested, respectively.
The first of Lufthansa's V2500-A5-powered A321s arrived on 27 January 1994, while Alitalia received its first CFM56-5B-powered aircraft on 22 March 1994.
The A321-100 entered service in January 1994 with Lufthansa.
Final assembly for the A321 was carried out in Germany then West Germanya first for any Airbus.
The second production line was located inwhich later produced the smaller and.
The A321 is the largest variant of the A320 family.
The A321-200's length exceeds 44.
Wingspan remained unchanged, supplementing various wingtip devices.
Two suppliers provided turbofan engines for the A321: with its and with the engine, both in the thrust range of 133—147 kN 30,000—33,000 lb f.
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The fuselage was lengthened by a 4.
The length increase required the overwing window exits of the A320 to be converted into door exits and repositioned in front of and behind the wings.
To maintain performance, and minor modifications were included, increasing the wing area from 124 m 2 1,330 sq ft to 128 m 2 1,380 sq ft.
The centre fuselage and were reinforced to accommodate the increase in of 9,600 kg 21,200 lbtaking it to 83,000 kg 183,000 lb.
The maximum takeoff weight MTOW of the A321-100 was increased to 83,000 kg 183,000 lb.
The A321-100 entered service with in 1994.
Only about 90 were produced.
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The additional fuel tankage increases the total capacity of this model to 30,030 L 7,930 US gal.
These modifications also increased the maximum takeoff weight of the A321-200 to 93,000 kg 205,000 lb.
This variant first flew in December 1996, and entered service with in April 1997.
Its direct competitors include the and the.
The lengthened A321neo prototype made its on 9 February 2016.
It received its type certification on 15 December 2016.
The first entered service in May 777 double slotted flaps with.
Airbus launched the A321LR Long Range on 13 January 2015 with a of 4,000 nmi 7,400 km with 206 seats in two classes.
On 31 January 2018, it completed its first flight.
Airbus announced its certification on 2 October 2018.
On 13 November 2018, received the first A321LR.
The proposed A321XLR with a range extended to 4,500 nmi 8,300 km would be launched in 2019 to enter service in 2021 or 2022 to compete with the.
In November, Airbus indicated that the A321XLR would have an MTOW over 100 t 220,000 lb and 700 nmi 1,300 km more range than the A321LR.
×2 133—147 kN 30,000—33,000 lb f 147.
Airbus' name has been Airbus SAS since 2001.
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Retrieved 31 December 2011.
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slotted flaps — A type of trailing edge flap. These may be single, double, or triple slotted. These may be single, double, or triple slotted. They form a slot(s) between their leading edge and the inside of the flap well in the wing.


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The aircraft shares a common with all other Airbus A320 family variants, allowing existing A320 family pilots to fly the aircraft without the need for further training.
In December 2010, Airbus announced a new generation of the A320 family, the new engine option.
The similarly lengthened fuselage A321neo variant offers new, more efficient, engines, combined with airframe improvements and the addition of called Sharklets by Airbus.
The aircraft delivers fuel savings of up to 15%.
The A321neo carries up to 236 passengers, with a maximum range of 4,000 nmi 7,400 km; 4,600 mi for the long-range version when carrying no more than 206 passengers.
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As of slots 777 game January 2019, a total of 1,850 Airbus A321 aircraft have been delivered, of which 1,827 are in service.
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The A321 entered service in 777 double slotted flaps 1994 with The Airbus A321 was the first derivative of the A320, also known as the Stretched A320, A320-500 and A325.
Its launch came on 24 November 1988, around the same time as the A320 entered service, after commitments for 183 aircraft from 10 customers were secured.
An Airbus A321 on 3 in the Airbus plant at The of the Airbus A321 came on 11 March 1993, when theregistration F-WWIA, flew with engines; the second prototype, equipped with CFM56-5B turbofans, flew in May 1993.
Lufthansa and were the first to order the stretched Airbuses, with 20 and 40 aircraft requested, respectively.
The first of Lufthansa's V2500-A5-powered A321s arrived on 27 January 1994, while Alitalia received its first CFM56-5B-powered aircraft on 22 March 1994.
The A321-100 entered service in January 1994 with Lufthansa.
Final assembly for the A321 was carried out in Germany then West Germanya first for any Airbus.
The second production line was located inwhich later produced the smaller and.
The A321 is the largest variant of the A320 family.
The A321-200's length exceeds 44.
Wingspan remained unchanged, supplementing various wingtip devices.
Two suppliers provided turbofan engines for the A321: with its and with the engine, both in the thrust range of 133—147 kN 30,000—33,000 lb f.
It is a low-wing with a conventional having a single and.
Changes from the A320 include a fuselage stretch and some modifications to the wing.
The fuselage was lengthened by a 4.
The length increase required the overwing window exits of the A320 to be converted into door exits and repositioned in front of and behind the wings.
To maintain performance, and minor modifications were included, increasing the wing area from 124 m 2 1,330 sq ft to 128 m 2 1,380 sq ft.
The centre fuselage and were reinforced to accommodate the increase in of 9,600 kg 21,200 lbtaking it to 83,000 kg 183,000 lb.
The maximum takeoff weight MTOW of the A321-100 was increased to 83,000 kg 183,000 lb.
The A321-100 entered service with in 1994.
Only about 90 were produced.
This is achieved through higher thrust engines V2533-A5 or CFM56-5B3minor structural strengthening, and an increase in fuel capacity with the installation of one or two optional 2,990 L 790 US gal tanks in the rear underfloor hold.
The additional fuel tankage increases the total capacity of this model to 30,030 L 7,930 US gal.
These modifications also increased the maximum takeoff weight of the A321-200 to 93,000 kg 205,000 lb.
This variant first 777 double slotted flaps in December 1996, and entered service with in April 1997.
Its direct competitors include the and the.
The lengthened A321neo prototype made its on 9 February 2016.
It received its type certification on 15 December 2016.
The first entered service in May 2017 with.
Airbus launched the A321LR Long Range on 13 January 2015 with a of 4,000 nmi 7,400 km with 206 seats in two classes.
On 31 January 2018, it completed its first flight.
Airbus announced its certification on 2 October 2018.
On 13 November 2018, received the first A321LR.
The proposed A321XLR with a range extended to 4,500 nmi 8,300 km would be launched in 2019 to enter service in 2021 or 2022 to compete with the.
In November, Airbus indicated that the A321XLR would have an MTOW check this out 100 t 220,000 lb and 700 nmi 1,300 km more range than the A321LR.
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slotted flaps, single and double Blackburn flaps, Blackburn flaps with flap leading-edge slots, Blackburn flaps with inset slots, Blackburn flaps with deflected shrouds and Venetian-blind flaps. The main characteristics of these high-lift flaps are also summarised in Table 2.


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Hitting the internet has come up with all sorts of graphs, but not the answer.
Classic aircraft have 3 stage Fowler flaps that at take-off setting extend a large distance 777 double slotted flaps the trailing edge of the wing.
The 727 take-off flap setting is a good example.
Can someone explain to a simple instructor how the the new design of flap provides the same amount of lift.
I have searched but there's nothign that explains the answer.
While I'm it, the A380 has a noticeably slower Vr and Vref.
Is that a function of the huge wing, or wing design airfoil tech or am I missing something.
Take-off, flap retraction schedule.
Old aircraft 727,707 it seems more info acceleration during the acceleration phase 3 stage?
Heavy takeoffs can take 7 mins to get to flaps up watched over dozens of videos.
A380 gets to clean speed in 2 mins or so.
My guess better thrust to weight of new aircraft resulting in better 3rd stage segment.
While I'm it, the A380 has a noticeably slower Vr and Vref.
Is that a function of the huge wing, or wing design airfoil tech or am I missing something.
So the current model has a low wing loading resulting in lower TO speeds.
But stand to be corrected.
PDR1 16th Feb 2018 14:37 IIRC in the early days of the A380 project there was a public 777 double slotted flaps over the growing noise footprints of airports, and so a design objective of the A380 was to be much quieter on approach.
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MarkerInbound 16th Feb 2018 17:36 In your example videos the 727 cleans up about 1:15 after rotation, the 380 takes 2 minutes.
Hard to say if both are using the same noise profile which would affect when the retraction starts.
Flaps are noisy, and triple slotted flaps are far noisier than double or single slotted flaps.
The 747 went from triple slotted to double slotted flaps on the 747-8, and it was almost entirely due to noise concerns.
As for the original question of how they get the same amount of lift from double slotted, I suspect it is due to better design - computer aided design, CFD, and the like.
A good example would be A320 vs A321.
The loss of one slot increases the flaps' efficiency and the continuous span on the NG adds to the surface area and improves airflow over the old split flaps design of the classics.
With the new wing, coming down will require more boards up time if your planning is imperfect and coming over the numbers with even just a few ticks above VREF+xx will give you a lot more float than the classic ever would.
The latter difference, alongside obvious training deficiencies, could be why we have seen so many overruns on the NG.
RVF750 16th Feb 2018 20:28 NG lands far faster too.
If they'd have moved the ailerons outboard and made the flaps wider the speeds would have been less, noise less and performance, especially in crosswinds a lot better.
However, the cost of certificating the new aileron system would have been far greater than Boeing would have wanted from modernising the design I guess.
So more expensive in all.
It took years before Boeing found a grease for those sensitive spindles that worked learn more here an airline environment.
Use anything else and you are in for an asymmetrical one of the next landings.
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The B727 was designed specifically for shorter runways which were unable to accommodate the B707, similarily the British VC10 was designed for hot and high airports in the African advise slots 777 ipad are />Lift at Low speed would have been an important factor in the design of these two types.
As time progressed airports were designed with the new jet transports in mind rather than the old Dc3s and DC4s.
Basically, design improved and runways got longer.
Which in no way negates the other improvements and changes that occurred and are mentioned above, over 50 years of development.
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Hitting the internet has come up with all sorts of graphs, but not the answer.
Classic aircraft have 3 stage Fowler flaps that at take-off setting extend a large distance behind the trailing edge of the wing.
The 727 take-off flap setting is a good example.
Can someone explain to a simple instructor how the the new design of flap provides the same amount of lift.
I have searched but there's nothign that explains the answer.
While I'm it, the A380 has a noticeably slower Vr and Vref.
Is that a function of the huge wing, or wing design airfoil tech or am I missing something.
Take-off, flap retraction schedule.
Old aircraft 727,707 it seems their acceleration during the acceleration phase 3 stage?
Heavy takeoffs can take 7 mins to get to flaps up watched over dozens of videos.
A380 gets to clean speed in 2 mins or so.
My guess better thrust to weight of new aircraft resulting in better 3rd stage segment.
While I'm it, the A380 has a noticeably slower Vr and Vref.
Is that a function of the huge wing, or wing design airfoil tech or am I missing something.
So the current model has a low 777 double slotted flaps loading resulting in lower TO speeds.
But stand to be corrected.
PDR1 16th Feb 2018 14:37 IIRC in the early days of the A380 project there was a public concern over the growing noise footprints of airports, and so a design objective of the A380 was to be much quieter on approach.
Analysis showed an unexpectedly large part of the noise signature of an airliner on approach was simply aerodynamic noise from the airframe.
The magnitude of this noise increases with the square of airspeed, so a "simple" way to address this was simply to fly slower in the approach phase.
Hence lower wing more info, stall speed etc.
MarkerInbound 16th Feb 2018 17:36 In your example videos the 727 cleans up about 1:15 after rotation, 777 near me 380 takes 2 minutes.
Hard to say if both are using the same noise profile which would affect when the retraction starts.
Flaps are noisy, and triple slotted flaps are far noisier than double or single slotted flaps.
The 747 went from triple slotted to 777 double slotted flaps slotted flaps on the 747-8, and it was almost entirely due to noise concerns.
As for the original question of how they get the same amount of lift from double slotted, I suspect it is due to better design - computer aided design, CFD, and the like.
A good example would be A320 vs A321.
The loss of one slot increases the flaps' efficiency and the continuous span on the NG adds to 777 double slotted flaps surface area and improves airflow over the old split flaps design of the classics.
With the new wing, coming down will require more boards up time if your planning is imperfect and coming over the numbers with even just a few ticks above VREF+xx will give you a lot more float than the classic ever would.
The latter difference, alongside obvious training deficiencies, could be why we have seen so many overruns on the NG.
RVF750 16th Feb 2018 20:28 NG lands far faster too.
If they'd have moved the ailerons outboard and made the flaps wider the speeds would have been less, noise less and performance, especially in crosswinds a lot better.
However, the cost of certificating the new aileron system would have been far greater than Boeing would have wanted from modernising the design I guess.
So more expensive in all.
It took years before Boeing found a grease for those sensitive spindles that worked in an airline environment.
Use anything else and you are in for an asymmetrical one of the next landings.
Pugilistic Animus 18th Feb 2018 03:06 If you have the appropriate math and physics background then "Theory of wing sections" By Abbot and Vandoenhoff has a very good chapter on high lift devices krismiler 18th Feb 2018 03:25 Improved design enabled the B777 to do without winglets which were used on the earlier B744.
The B727 was designed specifically for shorter runways which were unable to accommodate the B707, similarily the 777 double slotted flaps VC10 was designed for hot and high airports in the African colonies.
Lift at Low speed would have been an important factor in the design of these two types.
As time progressed airports were designed with the new jet transports in mind rather than the old Dc3s slot free DC4s.
Basically, design improved and runways got longer.
Which in no way negates the other improvements and changes that occurred and are mentioned above, over 50 years of development.
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